{"id":35452,"date":"2022-08-20T23:29:33","date_gmt":"2022-08-20T16:29:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/?p=35452"},"modified":"2022-08-25T22:02:27","modified_gmt":"2022-08-25T15:02:27","slug":"kinh-truong-bo-29-eng-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta-by-t-w-rhys-davids-and-c-a-f-rhys-davids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/trang-chu\/2022\/08\/20\/kinh-truong-bo-29-eng-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta-by-t-w-rhys-davids-and-c-a-f-rhys-davids\/","title":{"rendered":"Kinh Tr\u01b0\u1eddng B\u1ed9 29 ENG : Kinh Thanh t\u1ecbnh (P\u0101s\u0101dika sutta)  by\u00a0T.W. Rhys Davids\u00a0and C.A.F. 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Rhys Davids<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/2022\/08\/21\/kinh-truong-bo-29-pali-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Kinh Tr\u01b0\u1eddng B\u1ed9 29 Pali : Kinh Thanh t\u1ecbnh (P\u0101s\u0101dika sutta)<\/a><\/li><li class=\"entry-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/2022\/09\/04\/kinh-truong-bo-ah29-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta-kinh-thanh-tinh-a-ham\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Kinh Tr\u01b0\u1eddng B\u1ed9 AH29 \u2013 Kinh Thanh T\u1ecbnh (P\u00e0s\u00e0dika Sutta) \u2013 Kinh Thanh T\u1ecbnh ( A H\u00e0m )<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-toggle-item\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-title-2232\" class=\"elementor-tab-title\" data-tab=\"2\" role=\"tab\" aria-controls=\"elementor-tab-content-2232\" aria-expanded=\"false\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon elementor-toggle-icon-left\" aria-hidden=\"true\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-closed\"><i class=\"fas fa-caret-right\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened\"><i class=\"elementor-toggle-icon-opened fas fa-caret-up\"><\/i><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\" class=\"elementor-toggle-title\">Ph\u1ea7n gi\u1ea3ng gi\u1ea3i<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"elementor-tab-content-2232\" class=\"elementor-tab-content elementor-clearfix\" data-tab=\"2\" role=\"tabpanel\" aria-labelledby=\"elementor-tab-title-2232\"><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/2020\/10\/29\/gg-kinh-phap-mon-can-ban-trung-bo-kinh-nikaya\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gi\u1ea3ng gi\u1ea3i c\u01a1 b\u1ea3n<\/a><\/li><li class=\"entry-title\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tamhoc.org\/2022\/08\/21\/giao-an-truong-bo-kinh-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Gi\u00e1o \u00c1n Tr\u01b0\u1eddng B\u1ed9 Kinh \u2013 Kinh Thanh T\u1ecbnh (p\u00e0s\u00e0dika Sutta)<\/a><\/li><li>C\u00e1c b\u00e0i gi\u1ea3ng<\/li><li>T\u00e0i li\u1ec7u tham kh\u1ecfa<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"FAQPage\",\"mainEntity\":[{\"@type\":\"Question\",\"name\":\"Kinh Trung B\\u1ed9 029 Kinh Thanh t\\u1ecbnh (P\\u0101s\\u0101dika sutta)\",\"acceptedAnswer\":{\"@type\":\"Answer\",\"text\":\"<ul><li><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2020\\\/10\\\/20\\\/kinh-thanh-tinh\\\/\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noreferrer noopener\\\">Kinh Thanh t\\u1ecbnh (P\\u0101s\\u0101dika sutta)<\\\/a><\\\/li><li><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2022\\\/08\\\/20\\\/kinh-truong-bo-29-eng-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta-by-t-w-rhys-davids-and-c-a-f-rhys-davids\\\/\\\" rel=\\\"bookmark\\\">Kinh Tr\\u01b0\\u1eddng B\\u1ed9 29 ENG : Kinh Thanh t\\u1ecbnh (P\\u0101s\\u0101dika sutta) by\\u00a0T.W. 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Rhys Davids<\\\/a><\\\/li><li><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2022\\\/08\\\/21\\\/kinh-truong-bo-29-pali-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta\\\/\\\" rel=\\\"bookmark\\\">Kinh Tr\\u01b0\\u1eddng B\\u1ed9 29 Pali : Kinh Thanh t\\u1ecbnh (P\\u0101s\\u0101dika sutta)<\\\/a><\\\/li><li class=\\\"entry-title\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2022\\\/09\\\/04\\\/kinh-truong-bo-ah29-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta-kinh-thanh-tinh-a-ham\\\/\\\" rel=\\\"bookmark\\\">Kinh Tr\\u01b0\\u1eddng B\\u1ed9 AH29 \\u2013 Kinh Thanh T\\u1ecbnh (P\\u00e0s\\u00e0dika Sutta) \\u2013 Kinh Thanh T\\u1ecbnh ( A H\\u00e0m )<\\\/a><\\\/li><\\\/ul>\"}},{\"@type\":\"Question\",\"name\":\"Ph\\u1ea7n gi\\u1ea3ng gi\\u1ea3i\",\"acceptedAnswer\":{\"@type\":\"Answer\",\"text\":\"<ul><li><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2020\\\/10\\\/29\\\/gg-kinh-phap-mon-can-ban-trung-bo-kinh-nikaya\\\/\\\" target=\\\"_blank\\\" rel=\\\"noopener\\\">Gi\\u1ea3ng gi\\u1ea3i c\\u01a1 b\\u1ea3n<\\\/a><\\\/li><li class=\\\"entry-title\\\"><a href=\\\"https:\\\/\\\/tamhoc.org\\\/2022\\\/08\\\/21\\\/giao-an-truong-bo-kinh-kinh-thanh-tinh-pasadika-sutta\\\/\\\" rel=\\\"bookmark\\\">Gi\\u00e1o \\u00c1n Tr\\u01b0\\u1eddng B\\u1ed9 Kinh \\u2013 Kinh Thanh T\\u1ecbnh (p\\u00e0s\\u00e0dika Sutta)<\\\/a><\\\/li><li>C\\u00e1c b\\u00e0i gi\\u1ea3ng<\\\/li><li>T\\u00e0i li\\u1ec7u tham kh\\u1ecfa<\\\/li><\\\/ul>\"}}]}<\/script>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-aebe87f\" data-id=\"aebe87f\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-301daa01 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"301daa01\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":4} -->\n<h4>Sacred Books of the Buddhists<br>Volume IV<\/h4>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":4} -->\n<h4>D\u012bgha Nik\u0101ya<\/h4>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":4} -->\n<h4>Dialogues of the Buddha<br>Part III<\/h4>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":4} -->\n<h4><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/indexes\/sutta\/dn\/idx_digha_nikaya.htm#p29\">Sutta 29<\/a><\/h4>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":4} -->\n<h4>P\u0101s\u0101dika Suttanta\u0271<\/h4>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:heading {\"level\":1} -->\n<h1>The Delectable Discourse<\/h1>\n<!-- \/wp:heading -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Translated from the Pali by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/gallery\/tw_rd.htm\">T.W. Rhys Davids<\/a>&nbsp;and<br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/gallery\/caf_rd.htm\">C.A.F. Rhys Davids<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Public Domain<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Originally published under the patronage of<br>His Majesty King Chul\u0101lankarana,<br>King of Siam<br>by The Pali Text Society, Oxford<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:separator -->\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n<!-- \/wp:separator -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a><strong>[111]<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg117\">[117]<\/a>&nbsp;[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#p1\">1<\/a>][<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/ati\/dn\/dn.29.than.ati.htm#p1\">1<\/a>]&nbsp;THUS&nbsp;HAVE&nbsp;I&nbsp;HEARD.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The Exalted One was at one time sojourning among the S\u0101kyans,<br>[at the technical college<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n1\">1<\/a>]<\/sup>] in the Mango Grove<br>of the Sakyan family named The Archers.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now at that time N\u0101thaputta the Nigantha<br>had just died at P\u0101v\u0101.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n2\">2<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And at his death<br>the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n3\">3<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;became disunited<br>and divided into two parties,<br>in mutual strife and conflict,<br>quarrelling and wounding each other<br>with wordy weapons: \u2014<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Thou dost not understand this doctrine and discipline;<br>but I do understand it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;How shouldst thou understand it?&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Thou art in the wrong;<br>I am in the right!&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;I am speaking to the point;<br>thou art not!&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Thou sayest last<br>what should be said first,<br>and first<br>what ought to come last!&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;What thou hast so long excogitated<br>is quite upset!&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Thy challenge is taken up;<br>thou&#8217;rt proved to be wrong!&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Begone to get rid of thy opinion,<br>or disentangle thyself if thou canst!&#8221;<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n4\">4<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Truly the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>followers of N\u0101thaputta,<br>were out methinks to kill.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Even the lay disciples&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg118\">[118]<\/a>&nbsp;of the white robe,<br>who followed N\u0101thaputta,<br>showed themselves shocked,<br>repelled and indignant<br>at the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>so badly was their doctrine and discipline<br>set forth and imparted,<br>so ineffectual was it for guidance,<br>so little conducive to peace,<br>imparted as it had been<br>by one who was not supremely enlightened,<br>and&nbsp;<a><strong>[112]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;now wrecked as it was<br>of his support<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n5\">5<\/a>]<\/sup><br>and without a protector.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n6\">6<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>2. Now Cunda the Novice,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n7\">7<\/a>]<\/sup><br>having passed the rainy season at P\u0101v\u0101,<br>came to see the venerable \u0100nanda at S\u0101m\u0101gama,<br>and coming,<br>saluted him<br>and sat down beside him.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>So seated<br>he said to the venerable \u0100nanda:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;N\u0101thaputta, sir,<br>the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dha,<br>has just died at P\u0101v\u0101.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And he being dead,<br>the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas have become disunited<br>and divided into two parties,<br>in mutual strife and conflict,<br>quarrelling and wounding each other<br>with wordy weapons: \u2014<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou dost not understand this doctrine and discipline;<br>but I do understand it.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;How shouldst thou understand it?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou art in the wrong;<br>I am in the right!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;I am speaking to the point;<br>thou art not!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou sayest last<br>what should be said first,<br>and first<br>what ought to come last!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;What thou hast so long excogitated<br>is quite upset!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thy challenge is taken up;<br>thou&#8217;rt proved to be wrong!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Begone to get rid of thy opinion,<br>or disentangle thyself if thou canst!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Truly the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>followers of N\u0101thaputta,<br>were out methinks to kill.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Even the lay disciples of the white robe,<br>who followed N\u0101thaputta,<br>showed themselves shocked,<br>repelled and indignant<br>at the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>so badly was their doctrine and discipline<br>set forth and imparted,<br>so ineffectual was it for guidance,<br>so little conducive to peace,<br>imparted as it had been<br>by one who was not supremely enlightened,<br>now wrecked as it was<br>of his support<br>and without a protector.&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Then said the venerable \u0100nanda<br>to Cunda the Novice:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Friend Cunda,<br>this is a worthy subject<br>to bring before the Exalted One.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Let&#8217;s go to him,<br>and tell him about it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;Very good, sir&#8221;, replied Cunda the Novice.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>3. So the venerable \u0100nanda<br>and Cunda the Novice<br>sought out the Exalted One<br>and saluting him,<br>and sitting down beside him,<br>said this:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;N\u0101thaputta, sir,<br>the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dha,<br>has just died at P\u0101v\u0101.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And he being dead,<br>the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas have become disunited<br>and divided into two parties,<br>in mutual strife and conflict,<br>quarrelling and wounding each other<br>with wordy weapons: \u2014<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou dost not understand this doctrine and discipline;<br>but I do understand it.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;How shouldst thou understand it?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou art in the wrong;<br>I am in the right!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;I am speaking to the point;<br>thou art not!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thou sayest last<br>what should be said first,<br>and first<br>what ought to come last!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;What thou hast so long excogitated<br>is quite upset!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thy challenge is taken up;<br>thou&#8217;rt proved to be wrong!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Begone to get rid of thy opinion,<br>or disentangle thyself if thou canst!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Truly the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>followers of N\u0101thaputta,<br>were out methinks to kill.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Even the lay disciples of the white robe,<br>who followed N\u0101thaputta,<br>showed themselves shocked,<br>repelled and indignant<br>at the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas,<br>so badly was their doctrine and discipline<br>set forth and imparted,<br>so ineffectual was it for guidance,<br>so little conducive to peace,<br>imparted as it had been<br>by one who was not supremely enlightened,<br>now wrecked as it was<br>of his support<br>and without a protector.&#8221;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg119\">[119]<\/a>&nbsp;4. (The Buddha:) &#8220;Here, Cunda, we have a teacher<br>who was not supremely enlightened,<br>and a doctrine badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual to guide,<br>not conducing to peace,<br>imparted by one<br>who was not supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>In such a doctrine, moreover,<br>the disciple does not come to master<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n8\">8<\/a>]<\/sup><br>the lesser corollaries<br>that follow from the larger doctrine,<br><a><strong>[113]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;nor to acquire correct conduct,<br>nor to walk according to the precepts,<br>but is perpetually evading that doctrine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To him one might say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Friend, thou hast got [thy gospel],<br>and thou hast got thy opportunity.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n9\">9<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thy teacher is not supremely enlightened;<br>his Norm is badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual for guidance,<br>not conducive to peace,<br>not imparted by one supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thou in that doctrine<br>hast not mastered the lesser corollaries<br>that follow from the larger doctrine,<br>nor acquired correct conduct,<br>nor walkest thou<br>according to those corollaries,<br>but thou dost perpetually evade that doctrine.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thus, Cunda, both that teacher<br>and that doctrine<br>are shown blame\u00adworthy,<br>but the disciple is praiseworthy.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now he who should say to such a disciple:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Come, your reverence,<br>practise even according to the doctrine taught<br>and declared by your teacher!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Both he who instigates,<br>and he who is instigated,<br>and he too who,<br>being instigated,<br>practises accordingly, &#8211;<br>they all of them generate much demerit.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because their doctrine and discipline<br>are badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual for guidance,<br>not conducive to peace,<br>not imparted by one supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>5. But consider, Cunda,<br>where, the teacher<br>not being supremely enlightened,<br>and the doctrine being badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual for guidance,<br>not conducive to peace,<br>not imparted by one supremely enlightened,<br>the disciple abides in that doctrine,<br>practising the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>acquiring correct conduct and,<br>walking according to the precepts,<br>perpetually conforms to that doctrine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To him one might say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Friend, thou hast been unlucky<br>[in thy teacher],<br>and in thy opportunity;<br>thy teacher is not supremely&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg120\">[120]<\/a>&nbsp;enlightened;<br>thy doctrine is badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual for guidance,<br>not conducive to peace,<br>not imparted by one supremely enlightened;<br>and thou abide in that doctrine,<br>practising the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>acquiring correct conduct and,<br>walking according to the precepts,<br>perpetually conformest to that&nbsp;<a><strong>[114]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;doctrine.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>By these words, Cunda,<br>teacher<br>and doctrine<br>and disciple<br>are all blameworthy.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And he who should say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Verily his reverence<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n10\">10<\/a>]<\/sup><br>mastering the system<br>will carry it to a successful end!&#8217; &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>He thus commending<br>and he who is commended<br>and he who, thus commended,<br>redoubles the energy he puts forth, &#8211;<br>all they generate much demerit.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because their doctrine and discipline<br>have been badly set forth,<br>badly imparted,<br>ineffectual for guidance,<br>not conducive to peace,<br>not imparted by one supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>6. But consider, Cunda,<br>where the teacher is supremely enlightened,<br>and the doctrine well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one supremely enlightened,<br>but where the disciple in that norm<br>has not mastered the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>nor learnt to practise correct conduct,<br>nor walks according to the precepts,<br>but perpetually evades that doctrine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To him one might say: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Friend, thou hast not succeeded,<br>thou hast missed thy opportunity.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thy teacher is supremely enlightened,<br>and his doctrine is well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened,<br>but thou hast not mastered the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>nor learnt to practise correct conduct,<br>nor walk according to the precepts,<br>but perpetually evade that doctrine.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>By these words, Cunda,<br>teacher and doctrine are commended,<br>but the disciple is held blameworthy.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now if one were to say to such a disciple: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Come, your reverence,<br>practise in accordance with the doctrine taught<br>and declared by your teacher!&#8217; &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>he who instigated,<br>he who was instigated,<br>and he who being instigated practised accordingly,<br>would all of them generate much merit.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because that doctrine and discipline<br>were well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg121\">[121]<\/a>&nbsp;7. But consider, Cunda,<br>where the teacher is supremely enlightened,<br>the doctrine well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened<br>and where the disciple has mastered<br>the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>learnt to practise correct conduct,<br>walks according to the precepts,<br>and perpetually conformest to that doctrine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To him one might say:\u00ad<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a><strong>[115]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;&#8216;Thou, friend, hast been successful in teacher<br>and in opportunity<br>thy teacher is supremely enlightened,<br>the doctrine well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened<br>and you have mastered<br>the lesser corollaries<br>following on the larger doctrine,<br>learnt to practise correct conduct,<br>walk according to the precepts,<br>and perpetually conformest to that doctrine.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>By these words, Cunda,<br>teacher<br>and doctrine<br>and disciple<br>are all three deemed praiseworthy.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And if one should say to such a disciple: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Verily his reverence has mastered the system<br>and will carry it to a successful end,<br>he who commends,<br>he who is commended<br>and he who, commended,<br>redoubles the energy he is putting forth,<br>do all of them generate much merit.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because, Cunda, that is so<br>when a doctrine and discipline<br>well set forth and well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>have been imparted<br>by one who is supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>8. But consider, Cunda,<br>where a teacher hath arisen in the world,<br>Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened;<br>where a doctrine hath been well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely en1ightened;<br>but where his disciples<br>have not become proficient in the good Norm,<br>nor has the full scope<br>of the higher life<br>become manifest to them,<br>evident,<br>with all the stages in it co\u00adordinated,<br>nor has it been made a thing<br>of saving grace<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n11\">11<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;for them,<br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg122\">[122]<\/a>&nbsp;well proclaimed among men,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n12\">12<\/a>]<\/sup><br>when their teacher passes away.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now for such a teacher to die, Cunda,<br>is a great affliction for his disciples.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Our teacher arose in the world for us,<br>Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened;<br>and a Norm was well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who was supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But we have not become proficient<br>in the good Norm,<br>nor has the full scope<br>of the higher life<br>become manifest to us,<br>evident,<br>with all the stages in it coordinated,<br>nor has it been made a thing<br>of saving grace for us,<br><a><strong>[116]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;well proclaimed among men.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now has our teacher passed away!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For such a teacher to die, Cunda,<br>is a great affliction for his disciples.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>9. But consider, Cunda,<br>where a Teacher has appeared in the world who is Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened;<br>where a Norm has been well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened;<br>and where the disciples<br>have become proficient in the good Norm,<br>and where the full scope of the higher life<br>has become manifest to them,<br>evident,<br>with all its stages coordinated,<br>and made a thing of saving grace,<br>well proclaimed among men,<br>when that teacher passes away.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Now for such a teacher, Cunda,<br>to die is not an affliction for his disciples.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;A Teacher arose in the world for us,<br>Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened;<br>and a Norm was well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And we have become proficient in the good Norm,<br>and the full scope of the higher life<br>has become manifest to us,<br>evident,<br>with all its stages coordinated<br>and made a thing of saving grace,<br>well proclaimed among men.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg123\">[123]<\/a>&nbsp;&#8216;Now is our Teacher passed away!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For such a Teacher to die, Cunda,<br>is not an affliction to his disciples.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>10. If a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be none to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>then is that system<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>then is that system<br>by this circumstance<br>made perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>11. Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>but there be no senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n13\">13<\/a>]<\/sup><br>who are able to pro-&nbsp;<a><strong>[117]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;pagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace:<br>then is that system<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>12. But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace:<br>then is that system<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>but if there be no bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>but if there be no novices who are disciples,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>but if there be no senior<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n14\">14<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>but if there be no Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>but if there be no laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n15\">15<\/a>]<\/sup><br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>but if there be none among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n16\">16<\/a>]<\/sup><br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>but if there be no lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>but if there be none among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be no laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>but if the system be not successful,<br>prosperous,<br>widespread<br>and popular<br>in its full extent,<br>well proclaimed among men,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be no laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>and if the system be successful,<br>prosperous,<br>widespread<br>and popular<br>in its full extent,<br>well proclaimed among men,<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Again, if a religious system, Cunda,<br>be placed in these circumstances,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>and if the system be successful,<br>prosperous,<br>widespread<br>and popular<br>in its full extent,<br>well proclaimed among men,<br>but if the system be all this<br>but have not attained the foremost place<br>in public fame and support<br>then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>imperfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But if a religious system<br>be placed in these circumstances, Cunda,<br>and there be one to take the lead<br>who is a senior brother,<br>experienced,<br>of long standing in the order,<br>of ripe age,<br>arrived at years of discretion,<br>and there be senior bhikkhus who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the goal of religion,<br>who are able to propagate the truth,<br>who, having well confuted uprisen opposing schools<br>with their doctrines,<br>are able to teach the Norm<br>with saving grace,<br>and if there be bhikkhus<br>of middle age or standing<br>who are disciples,<br>and if there be novices who are disciples,<br>and if there be senior Sisters<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be Sister novices<br>who are disciples<br>and if there be no laymen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>laymen who are wealthy,<br>and if there be lay\u00adwomen<br>who are disciples,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>holy livers,<br>and if there be among those,<br>lay\u00adwomen who are wealthy,<br>and if the system be successful,<br>prosperous,<br>widespread<br>and popular<br>in its full extent,<br>well proclaimed among men,<br>and if the system be all this<br>and have attained the foremost place<br>in public fame and support<br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg125\">[125]<\/a>&nbsp;then is the holy life<br>by this circumstance<br>perfect.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>14. But I, Cunda, have now arisen<br>as a teacher in the world<br>who am Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And the Norm is well set forth,<br>well imparted,<br>effectual for guidance,<br>conducive to peace,<br>imparted by one who is supremely enlightened.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And my true hearers<br>are proficient in the good Norm,<br>and the full scope of the holy life<br>has become manifest to them,<br>evident,<br>with all its stages coordinated,<br>and made a&nbsp;<a><strong>[118]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;thing of saving grace for them,<br>well proclaimed among men.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But I, Cunda, the teacher<br>am now grown old,<br>many are the nights I have known,<br>long is it since I went forth,<br>I have reached full age,<br>l have come to my journey&#8217;s end.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>15. Yet senior bhikkhus of mine are there, Cunda,<br>who are disciples,<br>wise and well trained,<br>ready and learned,<br>who have won the peace of the Arahant,<br>who are able to propagate the good Norm,<br>who when others start opposed doctrine,<br>easy to confute by the truth,<br>will be able in confuting it<br>to teach the Norm<br>and its saving grace.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And bhikkhus of middle age and standing<br>now are there, Cunda;<br>disciples of mine<br>and wise.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And novices now are there, Cunda,<br>disciples of mine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And senior Sisters now are there, Cunda,<br>disciples of mine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And Sisters of middle age and standing<br>now are there, Cunda,<br>and novices also,<br>disciples of mine.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And lay\u00admen now are there, Cunda,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>men of holy life,<br>disciples of mine;<br>and among these<br>are men of wealth.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Laywomen now are there, Cunda,<br>householders of the white robe,<br>disciples of mine;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg126\">[126]<\/a>&nbsp;and among these<br>are women of wealth.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And my religion,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n17\">17<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Cunda,<br>is successful,<br>prosperous,<br>widespread<br>and popular in all its full extent,<br>well proclaimed among men.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To what extent, Cunda,<br>there now are teachers arisen in the world,<br>I cannot discern any teacher,<br>who has attained to such a leading position<br>in renown and support<br>as I have.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To what extent, Cunda,<br>there now are Orders and companies arisen in the world,<br>I cannot discern any one<br>that has attained to such a leading position<br>in renown and support<br>as the Order of Bhikkhus.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If any one,<br>in describing a religion<br>as in every way successful,<br>in every respect complete,<br>neither defective nor redundant,<br>well set forth in all its full extent,<br>were to be speaking rightly,<br>it is this religion<br>that he would be describing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a><strong>[119]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;Uddaka the son of Rama,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n18\">18<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Cunda,<br>used to say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Seeing he seeth not.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And on seeing what does one not see?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of a well sharpened razor<br>one sees the blade,<br>but one does not see the edge.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This is what he meant.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And a low pagan thing<br>was this that he spoke,<br>unworthy,<br>unprofitable,<br>suitable to the worldly majority,<br>about a razor forsooth.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg127\">[127]<\/a>&nbsp;Now were one to wish to use rightly that phrase,<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Seeing he does not see,&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>it is thus that he should say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Seeing he seeth not.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>But what is it that seeing<br>he does not see?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>A religion that is in every way successful,<br>in every respect complete,<br>neither defective nor redundant,<br>well set forth<br>in all its full extent: \u00ad<br>this is what he sees.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Were he to abstract some feature<br>at a given point,<br>thinking to make it clearer,<br>then he does not see it.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Were he to fill in some feature<br>at a given point,<br>thinking to make it more complete<br>then he does not see it,<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>and thus Seeing he seeth not.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Hence, Cunda,<br>if anyone wishing to describe a religion<br>in every way successful,<br>in every respect complete,<br>neither defective nor redundant,<br>well set forth in all its full extent,<br>were to be speaking rightly,<br>it is this religion<br>of which he should speak.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>17. Wherefore, Cunda, do ye,<br>to whom I have made known<br>the truths that I have perceived,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n19\">19<\/a>]<\/sup><br>come together in company<br>and rehearse all of you together<br>those doctrines<br>and quarrel not over them,<br>but compare meaning with meaning,<br>and phrase with phrase,<br>in order that this pure religion<br>may last long<br>and be perpetuated,<br>in order that it may continue to be<br>for the good and happiness of the great multitudes,<br>out of love for the world,<br>to the good<br>and the gain<br>and the weal<br>of devas and men!<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Which then, Cunda, are the truths which,<br>when I&nbsp;<a><strong>[120]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;had perceived,<br>I made known to you?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Which when ye have come together<br>and have associated yourselves,<br>ye are to rehearse,<br>all of you,<br>and not quarrel over,<br>comparing meaning with meaning,<br>and phrase with phrase,<br>in order that this pure religion<br>may last long<br>and be perpetuated,<br>in order that it may continue<br>to be for the good and happiness<br>of the great multitudes,<br>out of love for the world,<br>to the good<br>and the gain<br>and the weal<br>of devas and men?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They are these: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/cattari_satipatthana.htm\">The Four Onsets of Mindfulness,<\/a><br>the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/cattaro_sammappadhana.htm\">Four Supreme Efforts,<\/a><br>the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/cattari_iddhipada.htm\">Four Paths to Efficacy,<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/indriyani.htm\">the Five Powers,<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/balani.htm\">the Five Forces,<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/satta_sambojjhanga.htm\">the Seven Factors of Enlightenment,<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg128\">[128]<\/a><br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/glossology\/glossology\/atthangika_magga.htm\">the Ariyan Eightfold Path<\/a>.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These, 0 Cunda, are the truths<br>which when I had perceived,<br>I made known to you,<br>and which, when ye have come together<br>and have associated yourselves,<br>ye are to rehearse,<br>all of you,<br>and not quarrel over,<br>comparing meaning with meaning<br>and phrase with phrase,<br>in order that this pure religion<br>may last long,<br>and be perpetuated,<br>in order that it may continue<br>to be for the good and the happiness of the great multitudes,<br>out of love for the world,<br>to the good<br>and the gain<br>and the weal<br>of devas and men.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n20\">20<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>18. You, Cunda,<br>thus met together in concord<br>and in courtesy,<br>suppose that a co-religionist<br>expresses an opinion before the Chapter.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Then if you judge that this honourable member<br>has laid hold of the meaning wrongly,<br>or is proposing a wrong form of words,<br>ye are neither to approve of,<br>nor to blame him.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Unapproving,<br>unblaming,<br>ye are to address him thus: \u00ad<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of this meaning, brother,<br>either this is the phraseology<br>or that:<br>which fits it better?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Or: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>of these phrases<br>either this is the meaning,<br>or that:<br>which fits them&nbsp;<a><strong>[121]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;better?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If he reply:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of this meaning, brother,<br>just that phraseology<br>is the more fitting, or,<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of these phrases, brother,<br>just that meaning<br>fits them better,<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>he is neither to be set aside<br>nor upbraided.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Neither setting him aside<br>nor upbraiding him,<br>ye are<br>with careful attention<br>to explain to him<br>both meaning<br>and phraseology.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>19. Again, Cunda,<br>suppose that a co-religionist<br>expresses an opinion before the Chapter.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Then if you judge that if this honourable member<br>has laid hold of the meaning wrongly,<br>but propagates&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg129\">[129]<\/a>&nbsp;a right form of words,<br>ye are neither to approve of,<br>nor to blame him.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Unapproving,<br>unblaming,<br>ye are to address him thus:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of these different phrases, brother,<br>either this is the meaning<br>or that:<br>which fits them better?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If he reply:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Of these phrases, brother,<br>just this meaning<br>is the more fitting,<br>he is neither to be set aside,<br>nor to be upbraided.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Neither setting him aside,<br>nor upbraiding him,<br>ye are thoroughly to explain to him,<br>with careful attention,<br>the right meaning.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>21. So also must ye act,<br>if ye judge that such a speaker<br>has laid hold of the right meaning,<br>but is propagating a wrong form of words;<br>ye are thoroughly to explain to him,<br>with careful attention,<br>the right phraseology.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>21. But if, Cunda,<br>such a speaker say and mean<br>what ye judge to be right,<br>then saying<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Weil said!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>ye should approve of<br>and congratulate him.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And so saying and doing,<br>ye should thus address him:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;We are fortunate, brother,<br>this is most fortunate for us<br>that in your reverence<br>we see a co-religionist so expert in the spirit<br>and in the letter!<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>22. A new doctrine, Cunda,<br>do I teach<br>for&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg130\">[130]<\/a>&nbsp;subduing the mental intoxicants<br>that are generated<br>even in this present life.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>I teach not a doctrine<br>for the extirpating of intoxicants<br>in the future life only,<br>but one for subduing them now<br>and also for extirpating them<br>in the after-life.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Wherefore, Cunda,<br>the raiment sanctioned by me&nbsp;<a><strong>[122]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;for you,<br>let it suffice for the purpose of warding off cold,<br>for warding off heat,<br>for warding off the touch of gadfly and mosquito,<br>of wind<br>and sun<br>and snakes.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n21\">21<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The alms which are sanctioned by me for you,<br>let that suffice to sustain the body in life,<br>to keep it going,<br>to prevent injury,<br>to aid you in living the holy life,<br>you taking thought that:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Thus shall I overcome the former sensation,<br>nor cause new sensation to arise.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>So far shall I both be at ease<br>and incur no blame.&#8217;<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n22\">22<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The lodging which is sanctioned by me for you,<br>let that suffice for you<br>to ward off cold,<br>to ward off heat,<br>to ward off the touch of gadfly and mosquito,<br>of wind<br>and sun<br>and snakes,<br>just for the purpose of avoiding<br>the dangers of the climate<br>and of enjoying seclusion.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The provision in drugs<br>and other necessaries for sickness<br>which is sanctioned by me for you,<br>let that suffice you<br>so far as it may ward off sensations of illness<br>that have arisen<br>and preserve your health.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>23. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that wanderers holding other views than ours may say: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Those recluses who follow the Sakyan<br>are addicted and devoted<br>to a life of pleasure.&#8217;<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n23\">23<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Teachers alleging this, Cunda,<br>should be answered thus:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;What, brother,<br>is it to be addicted and devoted to pleasure?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For there are many<br>and manifold modes<br>in which one may be<br>so addicted and devoted.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>There are four such modes, Cunda,<br>which are low and pagan,<br>belonging to the average majority,<br>un\u00adworthy,<br>not associated with good,<br>not conducing to unworldliness,<br>to passionlessness,<br>to cessation,<br>to peace,<br>to higher knowledge,<br>to enlightenment,<br>to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>What are the four?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Firstly, there is the case<br>of the fool who takes his pleasure<br>and finds gratification<br>in slaying living creatures.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Secondly, there is the case<br>of&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg131\">[131]<\/a>&nbsp;one who takes his pleasure<br>and finds gratification<br>in taking what is not given.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thirdly, there is the case<br><a><strong>[123]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;of one who takes his pleasure<br>and finds gratification<br>in false statements.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Fourthly, there is the case<br>of one who dwells surrounded by,<br>and in the enjoyment of<br>the five kinds of sensuous pleasures.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These, Cunda, are the four modes<br>of being addicted and devoted<br>to pleasure which are low and pagan,<br>belonging to the average majority,<br>unworthy,<br>disconnected with good,<br>not conducive to unworldliness,<br>to passionlessness,<br>to cessation,<br>to peace,<br>to insight,<br>to enlightenment,<br>to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>24. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that other teachers may ask:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Are those recluses who follow the Sakyan<br>addicted and devoted<br>to these four modes?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They should be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Nay, that is not so!&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They would not be speaking rightly;<br>they would be misrepresenting you<br>by what is not fact,<br>by what is not so.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These are the four modes<br>of being addicted and devoted to pleasure, Cunda,<br>which conduce absolutely to unworldliness,<br>to passionlessness,<br>to cessation,<br>to peace,<br>to higher knowledge,<br>to enlightenment,<br>to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>What are the four?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Firstly, Cunda, when a brother,<br>aloof from sensuous appetites,<br>aloof from evil ideas,<br>enters into and abides in the First Jh\u0101na,<br>wherein there is initiative and sustained thought<br>which is born of solitude<br>and is full of zest and ease.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n24\">24<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Secondly,<br>when suppressing initiative and sustained thought,<br>he enters into and abides in the Second Jh\u0101na,<br>which is self-evoked,<br>born of concentration,<br>full of zest and ease,<br>in that, set free from initial and sustained thought,<br>the mind grows calm and sure,<br>dwelling on high.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n25\">25<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thirdly, when a brother,<br>no longer fired with zest,<br>abides calmly contemplative,<br>while mindful and self-possessed<br>he feels in his body<br><a><strong>[124]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;that ease where of Ariyans declare:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;He that is calmly contemplative and aware,<br>he dwelleth at ease,&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>so does he enter into and abide in the Third Jh\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Fourthly, by putting aside ease<br>and by putting aside malaise,<br>by the passing away<br>of the joy and the sorrow he used to feel,<br><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg132\">[132]<\/a>&nbsp;he enters into and abides in the Fourth Jh\u0101na,<br>rapture of utter purity of mindfulness and equanimity,<br>wherein neither ease is felt<br>nor any ill.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These four modes<br>of being addicted and devoted tu pleasure, Cunda,<br>conduce to utter unworldliness,<br>to passionlessness,<br>to cessation,<br>to peace,<br>to insight,<br>to enlightenment,<br>to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If then it happen, Cunda,<br>that wanderers teaching other doctrines<br>should declare:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The S\u0101kyan recluses<br>live addicted and devoted to&nbsp;<em>these<\/em>&nbsp;four modes of pleasure,<br>to them ye should answer:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Yea.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Rightly would they be speaking of you,<br>nor would they be misrepresenting you<br>by what is not fact,<br>by what does not exist.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>25. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that Teachers teaching other doctrines than ours<br>may declare:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;For those who live addicted and devoted<br>to&nbsp;<em>these<\/em>&nbsp;four modes of pleasure, brother,<br>how much fruit,<br>how many advantages are to be expected?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Them ye should answer thus:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Four kinds of fruit, brother,<br>four advantages<br>are to be expected.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>What are the four?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Firstly, the case of a brother<br>who by the complete destruction of the three fetters<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n26\">26<\/a>]<\/sup><br>becomes a Stream-winner,<br>saved from disaster hereafter,<br>certain to attain Enlightenment.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Secondly, the case of a brother<br>who by the complete destruction of three fetters<br>has so diminished<br>passion and hate and illusion<br>that he has become a Once\u00adReturner,<br>and returning but once to this world<br>will make an end of Ill.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thirdly, the case of a brother who,<br>by the complete destruction<br>of the five last fetters,<br>will be reborn in another world,<br>thence never to return,<br>there to pass away.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Fourthly, the case of the brother<br>who, by the destruction of the mental intoxicants,<br>has come to know and realize for himself,<br>even&nbsp;<a><strong>[125]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;in this life,<br>emancipation of intellect<br>and emancipation of insight,<br>and therein abides.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These, brother, are the four kinds of fruit,<br>the four advantages to be expected<br>by those who are addicted and devoted<br>to those four modes of pleasure.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>26. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that wanderers&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg133\">[133]<\/a>&nbsp;teaching other views than ours<br>may declare:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The Sakyan recluses are inconsistent in the doctrines they hold.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>To them thus declaring, this might be replied:-<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Brother, the Exalted One who knows, who sees,<br>Arahant,<br>supremely enlightened,<br>hath taught and made known to his disciples<br>doctrines not to be trans\u00adgressed<br>so long as life shall last.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Just as a pillar of stone or iron,<br>with base deep planted,<br>well fixed,<br>unshaking,<br>unquivering,<br>even so are those doctrines.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>The brother who is arahant,<br>in whom the intoxicants are destroyed,<br>who has lived the life,<br>who has done his task,<br>who has laid low his burden,<br>who has attained salvation,<br>who has utterly destroyed the fetter of rebirth,<br>who is emancipated by the true gnosis,<br>he is incapable of perpetrating nine things: \u00ad<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>1. He<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n27\">27<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;is incapable<br>of deliberately depriving a living creature of life.<br>2. He is incapable<br>of taking what is not given<br>so that it constitutes theft.<br>3. He is incapable of sexual impurity.<br>4. He is incapable of deliberately telling lies.<br>5. He is incapable of laying up treasure<br>for indulgence in worldly pleasure<br>as he used to do in the life of the house.<br>6. He is incapable<br>of taking a wrong course through partiality.<br>7. He is incapable<br>of taking a wrong course through hate.<br>8. He is incapable<br>of taking a wrong course through stupidity.<br>9. He is incapable<br>of taking a wrong course through fear.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a><strong>[126]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;These nine things<br>the arahant in whom the mental intoxicants arc destroyed,<br>who has lived the life,<br>whose task is clone,<br>whose burden is laid low,<br>who has attained salvation,<br>who has utterly destroyed the fetter of becoming,<br>who is emancipated by the true gnosis<br>is incapable of perpetrating.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg134\">[134]<\/a>&nbsp;27. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that Wanderers who hold other views than ours<br>mav declare:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Concerning the past<br>Gotama the Recluse reveals<br>an infinite knowledge and insight,<br>but not so concerning the future,<br>as to the what and the why of it.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>[If they were to say so],<br>then those wanderers would fancy,<br>like so many silly fools,<br>that knowledge and insight<br>concerning one kind of thing<br>are to be revealed<br>by knowledge and insight<br>engaged upon another kind of thing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Concerning the past, Cunda,<br>the Tath\u0101gata has cognition<br>reminiscent of existences.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>He can remember as far back as he desires.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And concerning the future<br>there arises in him<br>knowledge born of Enlightenment<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n28\">28<\/a>]<\/sup><br>to this effect:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This is the last birth;<br>now is there no more coming to be.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>28. If, 0 Cunda, the past mean<br>what is not true,<br>what is not fact,<br>what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n29\">29<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the past mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>but what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the past mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>and what does redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata knows well<br>the time when to reveal it.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If, 0 Cunda, the future mean<br>what is not true,<br>what is not fact,<br>what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the future mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>but what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the future mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>and what does redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata knows well<br>the time when to reveal it.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If, 0 Cunda, the present mean<br>what is not true,<br>what is not fact,<br>what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the present mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>but what does not redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata reveals nothing.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>If the present mean<br>what is true,<br>what is fact,<br>and what does redound to your good,<br>concerning that<br>the Tath\u0101gata knows well<br>the time when to reveal it.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg135\">[135]<\/a>&nbsp;And so, 0 Cunda,<br>concerning things past,<br>future<br>and present<br>the Tath\u0101gata is a prophet<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n30\">30<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;of the hour,<br>a prophet of fact,<br>a prophet of good,<br><a><strong>[127]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;a prophet of the Norm,<br>a prophet of the Discipline.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For this is he called Tath\u0101gata.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n31\">31<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>29. Whatever, 0 Cunda, in this world<br>with its devas and M\u0101ras and Brahm\u0101s,<br>is by the folk thereof,<br>gods or men,<br>recluses or brahmins,<br>seen,<br>heard,<br>felt,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n32\">32<\/a>]<\/sup><br>discerned,<br>accomplished,<br>striven for,<br>or devised in mind, &#8211;<br>all is understood by the Tath\u0101gata.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For this is he called Tath\u0101gata.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And all that<br>in the interval between the night, 0 Cunda,<br>wherein the Tath\u0101gata was enlightened<br>in the supreme enlightenment,<br>and the night<br>wherein he passed away<br>without any condition of rebirth remaining, &#8211;<br>all that,<br>in that interval,<br>he speaks in discourse<br>or conversation<br>or exposition: &#8211;<br>all that is so,<br>and not otherwise.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For that is he called Tath\u0101gata.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>As the Tath\u0101gata says, 0 Cunda<br>so he does;<br>as he does,<br>so he says.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Inasmuch as he goeth<br>even according to his word,<br>and his word<br>is according to his going,<br>for that is he called Tath\u0101gata.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>As to the world, 0 Cunda,<br>with its M\u0101ras and its Brahm\u0101s,<br>of all its folk,<br>divine or human,<br>recluses or brahmins,<br>the Tath\u0101gata hath surpassed them,<br>hath not by them been surpassed,<br>surveys them with sure vision,<br>disposer of things.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>For that is he called Tath\u0101gata.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>30. It may happen, Cunda,<br>that wanderers teaching other doctrines than ours<br>may say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;How is it, brother,<br>does a Tath\u0101gata exist after death?<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n33\">33<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Is that true,<br>and is any other view absurd?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They so asking are thus to be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Brother, this hath not been revealed&nbsp;<a><strong>[128]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg136\">[136]<\/a>&nbsp;by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Or they may say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Does a Tath\u0101gata not exist after death?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Is that true,<br>and is any other view absurd?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They so asking are thus to be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Brother, this hath not been revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Or they may say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Does a Tath\u0101gata neither exist nor not exist after death?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Is that true,<br>and is any other view absurd?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They so asking are thus to be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Brother, this hath not been revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Or they may say:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Does he both exist and not exist after death?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Is that true,<br>and is any other view absurd?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They so asking are thus to be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Brother, this hath not been revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>31. But it may happen, Cunda, that they may ask:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;But why, brother, is this not revealed by Gotama the Recluse?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They are thus to be answered:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Because, brother,<br>it is not conducive to good,<br>nor to true doctrine,<br>nor to the fundamentals of religion,<br>nor to unworldliness,<br>nor to passionlessness,<br>nor to tranquillity,<br>nor to peace,<br>nor to insight,<br>nor to enlightenment,<br>nor to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Therefore is it not revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>32. It may happen, Cunda, that they may ask:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;But what, brother, is revealed by Gotama the Recluse?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They are thus to be addressed: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;This is Ill: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>that, brother, is revealed by the Exalted One.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This is the Cause of Ill: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>that, brother, is revealed by the Exalted One.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This is the Cessation of Ill: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>that, brother, is revealed by the Exalted One.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This is the Path leading to the Cessation of I11: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>that, brother, is revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg137\">[137]<\/a>&nbsp;33. It may happen, Cunda, that those wanderers may ask:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;But why, brother, is just that revealed by the Exalted One?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>They so asking are to be thus addressed: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Because that, brother,<br>is fraught with Good,<br>that belongs to the Norm,<br>that is fundamental to religion,<br>and conduces to absolute unworldliness,<br>to passionlessness,<br>to cessation [of ill],<br>to peace,<br>to insight,<br>to enlightenment,<br>to Nibb\u0101na.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Therefore is it revealed by the Exalted One.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>34. Those comments on views<br>concerning the beginning of things, Cunda,<br>which have been revealed by me to you<br>even as they should be revealed: &#8211;<br>as they should not be revealed<br>shall I thus reveal them unto you?<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n34\">34<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And those comments on views<br>concerning&nbsp;<a><strong>[129]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;the end<br>or the beginnings of things,<br>which have been revealed by me to you<br>even as they should be revealed: \u00ad<br>as they should not be revealed<br>shall I thus reveal them unto you?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>There are, Cunda,<br>some recluses and brahmins<br>who believe and profess one or another<br>of the following views; saying:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;This alone is true, any other opinion is absurd&#8217;: \u00ad<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are eternal.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are not eternal.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are neither.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are both.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are self-made.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are made by another.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul and the world are both self-made and made by another.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg138\">[138]<\/a>&nbsp;&#8216;The soul and the world are neither,<br>having come into being fortuitously.&#8217;<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n35\">35<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Or they believe and profess<br>one or other of these same views<br>concerning pleasure and pain.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n36\">36<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>35. Now, Cunda, to those recluses and brahmins<br>who believe and profess any one of these views<br>I go and say thus:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Is this so, friend?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And if they reply:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Yes!<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This alone is true, any other view is absurd&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>I do not admit their claim.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Why is this?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because persons hold different opinions on such questions.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Nor do I consider this [or that] view<br>on a level with my own,<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n37\">37<\/a>]<\/sup><br>let alone higher.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Tis I who am higher,<br>that is<br>with regard to exposition.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n38\">38<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>36. And thus I say<br>regarding each of these opinions aforesaid.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg139\">[139]<\/a>&nbsp;Concerning all these comments<br>concerning the beginning of things,<br>I have revealed to you<br>what should be revealed;<br>shall I then reveal to you<br>what should not be revealed?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>37. And what, Cunda, are the comments concerning&nbsp;<a><strong>[130]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;the things after this life,<br>both which should be revealed<br>and which should not be revealed?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>There are, Cunda,<br>certain recluses and brahmins<br>who believe and profess one or other<br>of the following views and say regarding it:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;That alone is true,<br>any other view is absurd&#8217;: \u00ad<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul becomes after death of visible shape free from infirmity.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes invisible.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes both visible and invisible.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes neither visible nor invisible.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/dn\/dn.29.pali.bd.htm#pg140\">[140]<\/a>&nbsp;&#8216;It becomes conscious.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes unconscious.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes both.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;It becomes neither.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;The soul is abolished,<br>destroyed,<br>does not come to be after death.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>38. Now, Cunda, to those recluses and brahmins<br>who believe and profess any one of these views,<br>I go and say, as before: &#8211;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Is this even as you say, friend?&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And if they reply:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Yes!<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>This alone is true, any other view is absurd,&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>I do not admit that.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And why is this?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Because persons hold different views on such questions.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Nor do I consider this or that view<br>on a level with mine own,<br>let alone higher.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8216;Tis I who am higher,<br>that is<br>with regard to exposition.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>39. And thus I say regarding all those opinions aforesaid.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Concerning all these comments<br>concerning the things after this life,<br>I have revealed to you<br>what should be revealed;<br>shall I then reveal to you<br>what should not be revealed?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>40. For the expunging of all these comments<br>on opinions concerning the beginning<br>and the hereafter of things,<br>and for getting beyond them, Cunda,<br>I have taught<br>and laid down<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n30\">39<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;the Four Onsets of Mindfulness.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>What are the Four?<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n40\">40<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Herein, let a brother,<br>as to the body,<br>continue so to look upon the body<br>that he remains ardent,<br>self-possessed<br>and mindful,<br>that he may&nbsp;<a><strong>[131]<\/strong><\/a>&nbsp;overcome both the hankering<br>and the dejection<br>common in the world.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Herein, let a brother,<br>as to feeling,<br>continue so to look upon the feelings<br>that he remains ardent,<br>self-possessed<br>and mindful,<br>that he may overcome both the hankering<br>and the dejection<br>common in the world.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Herein, let a brother,<br>as to thought,<br>continue so to look upon the thoughts<br>that he remains ardent,<br>self-possessed<br>and mindful,<br>that he may overcome both the hankering<br>and the dejection<br>common in the world.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Herein, let a brother,<br>as to ideas,<br>continue so to look upon ideas<br>that he remains ardent,<br>self-possessed<br>and mindful,<br>that he may overcome both the hankering<br>and the dejection<br>common in the world.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>These have I taught<br>and laid down<br>for the expunging of<br>and the getting beyond<br>all those comments on opinions.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>41. Now at that time<br>the venerable Upav\u0101na was standing behind the Exalted One fanning him.<sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#n41\">41<\/a>]<\/sup><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thereupon he said to the Exalted One:<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Wonderfully, lord, and marvellously delectable<br>is this exposition of the Norm;<br>exceeding great is the charm thereof.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>How, lord, is this exposition named?<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>&#8220;We11 then, Upav\u0101na, bear it in mind as the Delectable Discourse.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Thus spake the Exalted One.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>And pleased and delighted was the venerable Upav\u0101na at his words.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p>Here Ends the P\u0101s\u0101dika Suttanta.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:separator -->\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n<!-- \/wp:separator -->\n\n<!-- wp:separator -->\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n<!-- \/wp:separator -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn1\">1<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Sippuggahanatth\u0101ya kato dighap\u0101s\u0101do atthi:<\/em>&nbsp;There is a long terraced mansion made for the learning of crafts.&nbsp;<em>Comy.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn2\">2<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;In the reference given in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/indexes\/sutta\/mn\/idx_majjhima_nikaya_3.htm#p104\"><em>Majjhima<\/em>&nbsp;II, 243&nbsp;<em>f.,<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;to the death of N\u0101thaputta, the Buddha is stated to have been staying at S\u0101m\u0101gama, among the S\u0101kyans. See below, \u00a7 2. The episode is repeated below,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.33.01-02.rhyt.pts.htm#fn8\">Sang\u012bti Suttanta, XXIII, I,\u00a7 6.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn3\">3<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;On the Niga\u1e47\u1e6dhas see Vol. I,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.02.rhyt.pts.htm#pg74\">74&nbsp;<em>f.,<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.08.rhyt.pts.htm#pg220\">220&nbsp;<em>f.<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn4\">4<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;On these wrangling phrases see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.01.rhyt.pts.htm#p18\">Vol. I, 14<\/a>&nbsp;<em>f.<\/em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>nn.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn5\">5<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Bhinnath\u016bpe, lit. having its&nbsp;<em>st\u016bpa<\/em>&nbsp;broken \u2014 a metaphor, says the&nbsp;<em>Comy.,<\/em>&nbsp;for foundation (platform,&nbsp;<em>pati\u1e6d\u1e6dh\u0101<\/em>).<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn6\">6<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Pa\u1e6disara\u1e47a\u0271,<\/em>&nbsp;lit. a resort, to whom, as B. elsewhere explains, all go for injunctions, etc. See&nbsp;<em>Bud. Psy.,<\/em>&nbsp;1914, p. 6g.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn7\">7<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Pronounce &#8216;Choonda&#8217;, the &#8216;oo&#8217; as in &#8216;good.&#8217; According to Buddhaghosa this is none other than the youngest brother of S\u0101riputtta (and of Revata), called in the&nbsp;<em>Therag\u0101tha<\/em>&nbsp;Mah\u0101cunda. See&nbsp;<em>Pss. of the Brethren,<\/em>&nbsp;pp.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/kd\/thag\/thag.131.rhyc.pts.htm\">118<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/kd\/thag\/thag.260.rhyc.pts.htm#pg350\">350<\/a>&nbsp;(where we have tentatively inferred that the Cundas were not identical).<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn8\">8<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;for the following phrases&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.16.rhyt.pts.htm#pg112\">Vol. II, 112.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn9\">9<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Tassa te suladdha\u0271<\/em>&nbsp;lit. for thee [is] the well-gotten; paraphrased as: for thee humanity (rebirth as human) is well gotten.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn10\">10<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Read&nbsp;<em>Addh\u0101yasm\u0101.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn11\">11<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Sappa\u1e6dih\u012brakata\u0271.<\/em>&nbsp;The apparently elastic import of this term is here (<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.09.rhyt.pts.htm#fn32\">Vol. I, 257,&nbsp;<em>n.<\/em>&nbsp;3<\/a>) further varied by Buddhaghosa, who paraphrases it simply by&nbsp;<em>niyy\u0101nika\u0271,<\/em>&nbsp;rendered above (following freely his definition on&nbsp;<em>Dhammasanga\u1e47i,<\/em>&nbsp;\u00a7 277) by &#8216;effectual for guidance.&#8217;<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn12\">12<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;On this reading see&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.18.rhyt.pts.htm#pg235\">Vol. II, 235 f.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn13\">13<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Patta-yogakkhem\u0101.<\/em>&nbsp;&#8216;Arahantship&#8217; \u2014 so the&nbsp;<em>Comy.<\/em>&nbsp;paraphrases.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn14\">14<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Ther\u0101<\/em>&nbsp;(sic).<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn15\">15<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Brahmac\u0101rino.<\/em>&nbsp;Paraphrased as&nbsp;<em>brahmacariyav\u0101sa\u0271 vasam\u0101n\u0101 ariyas\u0101vak\u0101.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn16\">16<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Wealthy converts&nbsp;<em>(sot\u0101pann\u0101),<\/em>&nbsp;qualifies Buddhaghosa.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn17\">17<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Brahmacariya.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn18\">18<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;One of Gotama&#8217;s two teachers.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/indexes\/sutta\/vp\/idx_vinaya.pitaka.htm\"><em>Vin. Texts<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;I, 89;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/mn\/mn.026.pali.bd.htm#pg165\"><em>Majjhima<\/em>&nbsp;I, 165;<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/kd\/dhp\/kd.dhp.pali.bd.htm#v85\"><em>Dhammapada<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;<em>Comy.<\/em>&nbsp;I. 85;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/resources\/pdf\/tw_rhys-davids\/rhys-davids_birth-stories.pdf\"><em>Buddhist Birth stories,<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;89.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn19\">19<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.16.rhyt.pts.htm#pg127\">Vol. II, 127,<\/a>&nbsp;where the nature of the solemn charge is similar, yet not the same.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn20\">20<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;This summary of Buddhism is word for word the same as that laid before the disciples on the Buddha&#8217;s last journey (<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.16.rhyt.pts.htm#pg127\">above II, 127 ff.<\/a>&nbsp;The note there explains the details). It will be seen that the list amounts to thirty-seven items; and they are often referred to in later books as the thirty-seven Factors of Enlightenment, the&nbsp;<em>Bodhi-pakkhiya-dhamm\u0101.<\/em>&nbsp;(p. 93; 97).<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn21\">21<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/mn\/mn.002.pali.bd.htm#pg10\"><em>Majjhima<\/em>&nbsp;I, p. 10;<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/bs\/mn.002.rhyt.bs_7.htm#pg303\"><em>Buddhist Suttas,<\/em>&nbsp;<em>S.B.E.<\/em>&nbsp;XI, p. 303.<\/a>&nbsp;Buddhaghosa refers to&nbsp;<em>Visuddhi Magga<\/em>&nbsp;for details.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn22\">22<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Dhammasanga\u1e47i,<\/em>&nbsp;\u00a7 I, 348.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn23\">23<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.28.rhyt.pts.htm#pg107\">above, p. 107,<\/a>&nbsp;\u00a7 20.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn24\">24<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;It should be borne in mind that the one a11-expressive word in Pali for pleasant sensation, pleasure, happiness, ease is&nbsp;<em>sukha.<\/em>&nbsp;Ease here, therefore, must be taken as representing exactly, generically considered, the foregoing term pleasure.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn25\">25<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;On the&nbsp;<em>Jh\u0101na<\/em>-term&nbsp;<em>ekodi-bh\u0101va<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Expositor,<\/em>&nbsp;i, p. 226. It is there taken to mean literally state of unique or lonely exaltation.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn26\">26<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.28.rhyt.pts.htm#pg102\"><em>supra,<\/em>&nbsp;p. 102,<\/a>&nbsp;\u00a7 13;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.06.rhyt.pts.htm#pg200\">Vol. I, p. 200&nbsp;<em>f.<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn27\">27<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.33.05.rhyt.pts.htm#p5.10\">below Sang\u012bti, p. 225 (x)<\/a>;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/an\/09_nines\/an09.007.hare.pts.htm#fn5\">A\u1e45guttara IV, 370.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn28\">28<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Buddhaghosa explains this as&nbsp;<em>bodhim\u016ble j\u0101ta\u0271:<\/em>&nbsp;evolved, or born, at the root of the Bo-tree.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn29\">29<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Or, does not answer&nbsp;<em>(\u1e47a vy\u0101karoti).<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn30\">30<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Literally, declarer, or speaker of&nbsp;<em>(-v\u0101d\u012b).<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn31\">31<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Tath\u0101-gado,<\/em>&nbsp;putting&nbsp;<em>d<\/em>&nbsp;for&nbsp;<em>t,<\/em>&nbsp;says Buddhaghosa.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn32\">32<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Here, as in&nbsp;<em>Papa\u00f1ca S\u016bdani<\/em>&nbsp;on&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/mn\/mn.001.pali.bd.htm\"><em>Majjhima<\/em>&nbsp;I, 1,<\/a>&nbsp;Buddhaghosa calls&nbsp;<em>muta\u0271, mutv\u0101,<\/em>&nbsp;an equivalent term for the other three senses. And he refers&nbsp;<em>vi\u00f1\u00f1\u0101ta\u0271:<\/em>&nbsp;discerned, to ideas pleasant and unpleasant. See&nbsp;<em>Buddh. Psychological Ethics,<\/em>&nbsp;239,&nbsp;<em>n.<\/em>&nbsp;I ; and&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pali\/sn\/01_sagv\/sn01.08.001-012.pali.bd.htm#p3.1\"><em>Sa\u0271yutta<\/em>&nbsp;I, 186<\/a>:&nbsp;<em>di\u1e6d\u1e6dhasute pa\u1e6dighe ca mute ca<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/sn\/01_sagv\/sn01.08.003.rhyc.pts.htm#n1\">(<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;Kindred Sayings I, 23 7,&nbsp;<em>n.<\/em>&nbsp;1).<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn33\">33<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;The four alternatives are enumerated among Eel-wriggler speculations,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.01.rhyt.pts.htm#p60\">Vol. I, p. 39&nbsp;<em>f.<\/em><\/a>&nbsp;In this connexion, says Buddhaghosa, Tath\u0101gata means a person (being,&nbsp;<em>satto<\/em>), presumably any arahant, not the Buddha only.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn34\">34<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Read, for&nbsp;<em>no, vo,<\/em>&nbsp;as in the following similar phrase.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn35\">35<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.06.rhyt.pts.htm\">above, I, 186-188.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn36\">36<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/backmatter\/indexes\/sutta\/sn\/02_nv\/idx_12_nidanasamyutta.htm#p17\"><em>Sa\u0271yutta<\/em>&nbsp;ii., 19&nbsp;<em>f.<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn37\">37<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;Attano sama-sama\u0271. That is, says the&nbsp;<em>Comy.,<\/em>&nbsp;on a level of knowledge&nbsp;<em>(\u00f1\u0101\u1e47ena)<\/em>.<\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn38\">38<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Adhipa\u00f1\u00f1atti.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn39\">39<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Pa\u00f1\u00f1att\u0101.<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn40\">40<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.22.rhyt.pts.htm#pg327\">Vol. II, 327.<\/a><\/p>\n<!-- \/wp:paragraph -->\n\n<!-- wp:paragraph -->\n<p><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/dn\/dn.29.rhyt.pts.htm#fn41\">41<\/a>]<\/sup>&nbsp;<em>Cf.<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/obo.genaud.net\/dhamma-vinaya\/pts\/kd\/thag\/thag.153.rhyc.pts.htm\"><em>Psalms of the Brethren,<\/em>&nbsp;p. 140,<\/a>&nbsp;for his poem and his ministry; 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T\u00e2m h\u1ecdc l\u00e0 cu\u1ed1n s\u00e1ch Online gi\u1edbi thi\u1ec7u v\u1ec1 b\u1ed9 kinh Nikaya , c\u00e1c b\u1ea3n d\u1ecbch v\u00e0 ch\u00fa gi\u1ea3i \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c T\u00e2m H\u1ecdc so\u1ea1n t\u1eeb c\u00e1c ngu\u1ed3n \u0111\u00e1ng t\u00edn c\u1eady tr\u00ean m\u1ea1ng internet.<\/p><p>Tuy nhi\u00ean \u0111\u00e2y v\u1eabn l\u00e0 s\u00e1ch ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 gi\u00e1 tr\u1ecb tham kh\u1ea3o , mang t\u00ednh ch\u1ee7 quan c\u1ee7a t\u00e1c gi\u1ea3&nbsp; T\u00e2m h\u1ecdc.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home Sacred Books of the BuddhistsVolume IV D\u012bgha Nik\u0101ya Dialogues of the BuddhaPart III Sutta 29 P\u0101s\u0101dika Suttanta\u0271 The Delectable Discourse Translated from the Pali by&nbsp;T.W. 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